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The Missing Piece In Recovery
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What if the biggest problem in modern recovery is that we’ve been missing the most important piece all along? ⚡
In this week’s DC Tech Talk, we dive into the missing link between sports recovery, athlete performance, blood flow, muscle activation, the nervous system, and modern recovery technology.
For years, athletes have relied on ice, stretching, massage guns, TENS units, compression, and passive recovery tools… but are we overlooking the neurological side of recovery and performance?
We break down:
⚡ The missing piece in modern recovery
⚡ Why blood flow and activation matter
⚡ Direct current vs traditional TENS units
⚡ Muscle recovery and neuromuscular stimulation
⚡ Recovery science and performance technology
⚡ How athletes, coaches, and clinicians are using direct current
⚡ Human performance, mobility, rehab, and movement optimization
⚡ The connection between the nervous system and recovery
This is not just another recovery podcast. This is a deeper look into the future of sports recovery, rehabilitation, biohacking, and performance training.
Whether you’re an athlete, strength coach, physical therapist, chiropractor, trainer, or someone obsessed with performance and recovery science, this episode will completely change the way you think about recovery.
#train #perform #recover
Everybody wants to come back, so we chase every piece. Training, mobility, strength, performance, rest, nutrition, rehab, we stack the pieces together, hoping the picture finally becomes clear. But for a lot of athletes and a lot of patients as well, something still feels incomplete. The pain may calm down, the rage may improve, the body may look ready, but performance doesn't always come back with it because recovery isn't just about fixing what hurts. It's about restoring what connects at all. The body, the frame, debugging the movement, and with the final piece is missing, the whole picture changes today! We're not just talking about recovery. We're talking about the missing piece that completes it all. And yes, I'm talking about all of the recovery trends. And, you know, listen, don't get me wrong, a lot of those tools can be helpful. Sleep matters, nutrition matters, hydration, mobility, strength, they all matter in massage, compression, cold, heat, breath work, all of this has a place. But here's the question if we have more recovery tools than ever before, why are so many athletes and patients still stuck? Why does the pain calm down, but the movement still feels off? Why does the range improve, but performance doesn't fully come back? Why does the body look ready, but something deep down still feels disconnected? That's what we want to unpack today. Recovery isn't just about feeling better, right? It's about restoring the system that lets you move, trust, react, stabilize, produce force, and perform again. And I think sometimes we treat recovery like a checklist. Ice bath, check, massage gun, check, stretching, check, compression boots, check, posting a picture of yourself in the cold plunge looking miserable so everybody knows that you're disciplined. Double check. But the real question is did everybody actually reconnect? Did the brain, the muscles, the movement, did all of that come back online together? That's the piece I think a lot of people are missing. And Mason, this is where I want to bring you in because you've seen this from the athletic training side. You've seen athletes who are cleared but not really ready to go. You've seen people pass tests, hit ranges, check the boxes, and still not move like themselves. So from your world, when you hear the word recovery, what do you think people are getting right? And what do you think they're still missing?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, there's a lot of things. And first thing that I'll say is uh I'm fully in support of anybody that does want to get into a cold plunge and rethink their life decisions and why they're sitting there in the first place. Um, because that's true character development. But I think you kind of nailed the aspect that we're getting at here. Um, and it's that recovery has become this giant menu of options to try to pick from. Some of them are good, some of them are great, uh, but the issue is that people want to start collecting them like they're an Aaron Judge rookie card or a Wembin Yama card. Um, and that's not the case. Cold punch, sauna, massage, compression boots, red light, stretching, supplements, even, sleep trackers and breath work apps, all those things that you mentioned. Uh, there's tons of value in those. That's not what we're saying, is that there isn't. Um, but none of them mean that the body is automatically going to bounce back and know how it should move properly again. And that's the difference with what we have here. A muscle can feel less sore, but it's still not coordinating correctly. You can get a better range out of certain joints, but it still doesn't feel stable and ready for activity. And you can look at the athlete as a whole and they may look strong in one position, but then when you start to implement speed, direction change, agility, and just everything you need to be game ready, things start to fall apart and we sit there and we wonder why. Um, and that's where recovery can start to get interesting when you start to introduce that. Because the goal isn't to just calm things down overall with recovery. The goal is to get the system back online and working together correctly. Um, and to do that, the brain has to trust the movement that you're going through. The muscles have to fire at the right time once that signal's been sent. The joint has to feel safe when it goes through those movements and make sure that it's stable. And then overall, the body has to know where it is in space with your proprioception and your balance to make sure that you stay upright while you're moving quickly. And you know, you have to take all of those things that I just mentioned, bring them into real life or sport, and make sure that they work cohesively. Um, and that's why I like that puzzle concept that we're really trying to hit on today. Because when you look at a puzzle, there's multiple pieces. And when you look at the body, there's multiple pieces too. Sleep's a piece of that, nutrition is a piece of that, mobility, strength, rest, rehab. They're all pieces that go into this puzzle. But if the connection piece is missing, then do we really have a whole puzzle or do we have a bunch of pieces that are just trying to put themselves together?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, exactly. That's a really good point. And that's really the theme today. Listen, we're not here to bash recovery tools. I love a lot of them. I own many of them. So I'm not, you know, and I'm also not anti-cold plunge. I'm just anti-pretending that freezing yourself in a horse trough automatically makes you somebody like Chuck Norris.
SPEAKER_00And to be fair, if I'm sitting in a cold plunge, recovery isn't the first thing that's coming to my mind. It's more negotiations with the powers above and uh making sure that I feel all right through that.
SPEAKER_03Well, I guess, you know, Mason, better that than sitting on a bunch of hot coals in fire for eternity. No fluff, no filters, just real talk, real tech, and real outcomes. So lock in, turn it up, and let's get after it. This is Tech Talks. Welcome everybody, welcome back to Tech Talks. If we are live, if you are live right now, feel free to leave us a question, leave it in the comment section. Uh, if you don't join us live, you can leave it in the non-live comment section. We'll be happy to get back to you on those questions. So we are going to be asking questions at some point. But Mason, as we dig into this, we have a lot of athletes that we work with. A lot of athletes have posted things, a lot of cool things on Instagram, a lot of movement-based things. But recovery is a big one, isn't it? Especially for pro athletes.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. And I think it's it's one of the more fun things for them to post about and to kind of socialize about is the recovery aspect. That's where all the fun toys come in, and we get to sit back and relax and take things in for a little bit versus trying to post all of the sweat and tears that we're putting into things.
SPEAKER_03Somebody we're about to share somebody that that also has our technology that we work with that knows a lot, Mason, about sweat and tears and putting the work in. Uh, she's an American Olympian, uh, was in the 2016 Rio Olympics. She did the 3,000 uh steeple steeple chase. Uh, amazing athlete, but this is what she says about recovery. Check it out.
SPEAKER_06All right, how does it great? I've been using this gold device here for a few months and haven't said anything about it because I wanted to make sure that I felt totally confident that it was worthwhile and that I love it before I give out any recommendations. And then the third way I use it is for recovery. It stimulates blood flow on specific settings for recovery, and I use this when I'm traveling, so I put it on my feet and my ankles when I'm on the plane and sitting down for hours, which is a game changer. And then I also do these R Panero foot baths, which have been absolutely incredible for my recovery. I love it.
SPEAKER_03I mean, of course, she loves it, it's uh helped her career out tremendously. Uh Mason, thoughts on that? She's using a foot bath, using the RX, not a foot bath, using the RX on a plane.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I I haven't used the RX on a plane quite yet. Uh, I haven't whipped the suitcase out to set that up, but I have used the DX on all of the travels that we've been on over the last six months or so. Um, I'm always taking the DX out, always getting some looks as to what it is. Um, but it just helps me feel good throughout that flight. You're sitting there for how many hours I'm 6'5 and trying to jam into any seat on a plane isn't always fun. So let's keep the blood moving. And that the DX does a great job of that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and and the you know, the the flying is underrated as far as what it can do to you, you know, and as far as developing inflammation. A lot of athletes travel. So, you know, that using it for that particular protocol by itself is probably worth the money if you travel a lot in your sport. And uh, she was no exception. Now, when we talk about recovery, you know, she was doing a foot bath. I, you know, I would lean into that as saying that's probably one of the best protocols you could do with this device. So we're learning that more and more. Uh, but you know, there's a lot of other things movement-based. Would you say recovery has any movement aspect to it using this device?
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. Using this device and just recovery overall. I think, you know, back years back, our thought process behind recovery was to sit and move as little as possible and just let things calm down. Uh, but what we've learned over time is that really a lot of the healing, a lot of the recovery comes when you start to introduce movement into that. And that's kind of why we've found and taglined the fact that movement is truly the medicine.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I movement is the medicine, is one of my favorite statements. Um, I and I led that question to you because I found a video. Uh, new X does this, and I'm gonna show this video in in just about a in just a second, but they're they're using it in such a way where they're creating movement as a recovery aspect, and it's working the shoulder, which is interesting because we do work with a lot of baseball players, and this is something similar, not exactly, but similar to what we would do as well. So I'll pull here this again. This is uh new X. Now, let me go back to that real quick. So, as you could see here, Mason, check this out on the top deck. You see the new X. It looks like on the second deck, there is a second new X. Is that am I looking at that right?
SPEAKER_00That's what I'm seeing too, just based on those those lead cords there on the right side. It just looks like probably what she has on top of it. You know what that probably is, Jake? Is that's probably the power adapters sitting on top of the second level there for those devices, and that's probably what's covering it up. It looks like the powered adapters.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it could be. I do uh I do think there's two. And as we go through, and there it is, she's got eight of these, looks like eight leads, four different cables, and she's running all on the on the right side of the shoulder. Could you kind of talk through this a little bit?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, I don't I don't want to assume what type of athlete she is, um, but it it looks like probably a swimmer. Um, but in a general sense, she's an overhead athlete. Um, and she's going through her sport specific motion as she's doing a recovery protocol. Um, and we always overhead athletes, we immediately shoot to baseball, or that's what we think, or maybe that's just you and I, but that's always what we think is baseball. But there's so many other overhead athletes, swimmers, volleyball players is a huge one, probably right up there with baseball, softball players. I mean, every sport goes overhead to some extent, even basketball with rebounds, uh, football with making a catch or throwing a pass. So going through those sport-specific movements with a recovery protocol on, reconnecting, starting at the scapula area where those muscles originate, and working the way down that pathway into the wrist, hand, forearm while performing those movements.
SPEAKER_03Well said. And to make a long short story short, kind of to your point, you you can use movement for recovery. And this was a good example uh that Nux did with two devices, which probably begs the question: could we use other multiple devices, you know, rather than just the Nu X? We have done it. I've done it with multiple DXs, I've done it with multiple RX's. Just take your pick. We've tried all of them. I've done them all at once just to see what happens. So, yes, you certainly can very, very safe to do. Uh let's dig into this, Mason. The brain, people are here for your brains. And we want to talk about recovery. We're gonna bring up the most basic one. Uh, this is one that I think most people who know direct current know this one, but this is gonna be new to some people. Can you talk through this, the pad placements, the setup? And is it, you know, does this work for all DC devices?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, warm-up and recovery protocol. Really, what we're doing here, we're starting with the black leads, our active leads are gonna be uh on the feet, base of the feet, and you're gonna put your passive leads or your grounding leads, the red ones, up towards the backs of the shoulders. So, in essence, you've got a full body connection happening here. That's why we love to use it for either warm-up, pre-activity, or for recovery. Um, and then that's when you can kind of play with the output powers a little bit. I know we have an MLB picture with the pirates that he loves to do this and he'll just stand on the clamshells and then put the ground pads, the red pads on the backs of his shoulders. Um, but what you're doing is you're making that full body reconnection all the way up to those muscles and nerves that are close to the neck, close to the top of the body, down to the base and the foundation of the body, which is so important because of those neuroreceptors that are in the feet. We talk about balance and proprioception, that's all gonna start in that area too. So the smoother and more efficient we can make that connection, the better off it's gonna be, whether it's pre-activity or at lower output powers and calming that body down.
SPEAKER_03If somebody wasn't an athlete, Mason, how important is something like this, you know, because they're not in sports, but you talked about balance and proprio reception. Is this something that a non-athlete should be doing as well?
SPEAKER_00I think so. Yeah. I think, you know, if you if you spend time on your feet at all, which is going to be 99% of the population, um, there's a use for this full body because of the fact that you're making that connection. And even if you aren't on your feet, just making that connection, starting at the base of the body, working your way up to the top, um, and finding any of those breakdowns neurologically that may be happening is going to prove to be beneficial. You do not have to be an elite athlete to see the benefits of that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, well said. And and as an example of another athlete kind of running what we were we were saying, he's got a different setup, but something more unique. You know, I always have to highlight this. It's interesting. This is Lane Johnson. He used to play for the Philadelphia Eagles. He's currently retired, but phenomenal athlete. And he's using the PRS, which is uh PRS, Flex Doctor, they're kind of in their same league. It's a smaller one, single channel, but has a has a lot of little power behind such a small device. He's using this for recovery, but then he has something on his forehead which looks like a needle. What would what would the premise be for that on some sort of recovery or connection uh using this particular setup?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's just a little bit more focused for um that the needle that's in the forehead. I'm not exactly sure. I can't tell from the picture if that would be his active or his ground. I've got to assume it's his active, um, but it's just it's gonna be a little bit more focused. Um, no pun intended. It's gonna be a little bit more pinpointed. Um, and so he's it's gonna still making that connection. He's got those pads on the bottom of the feet. He's laying down and relaxing. He's not using it in any sort of an active fashion. Um, and that's more than fine, especially when we're working with the bottom of the feet. It can be a little bit more difficult to get active with it. There are ways to do it though. So if you are interested in that, feel free to reach out to us. We've got ways to stay active while still doing warm-up and recovery protocols.
SPEAKER_03Yes. And and and nothing to take away from what Lane Johnson is doing. You don't have to put a needle in your forehead for this to work either. So just keep that in mind. Moving on to the next one, Mason. Here we go. Sleep anti-anxiety and pregame. What is the setup with this and uh the benefits of uh anybody actually doing it?
SPEAKER_00Yep. So so setup is going to be you've got your black lead is going to be on top, or it's gonna be um higher than your red lead is going to be. That's gonna be in the area of the sternum. Uh, so right in the center of the chest over that bony kind of area in the middle of your chest. You're gonna put it right on top of there. Your red lead, about three to four inches below that. If you're anatomical, kind of find that xiphoid process area. Um, so it, but they're gonna be stacked on top of each other vertically. Really, the goal of this is we're just creating a small pathway in that area. Um, it's a calming stimuli into a highly receptive area. Um, and so with this one, we usually keep this one nice and low as far as output powers go. It's really to just try to help focus and you know, lock in those thoughts, relax if you need to. Um, it's great for 15 minutes before bed, 15 minutes before a game if you get those nerves, even if you don't get those nerves. Um, that's kind of the whole premise of using this protocol here.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and and it looks like this is one channel, right? So it's a pretty easy setup. And you know, any device, even the one, the single channel device is easy to kind of run this.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, and I'm glad you mentioned that too, because you know this this is something where you can run that. And if you have a certain joint that you know needs a little bit of extra blood flow or just needs a little bit more muscle activation while you're doing that, you can go and you can, you know, throw it on the shoulder, do sandwich the shoulder and still do your anti-anxiety. Um, and especially with the DX500, we've got that independent channel control. So you know that you can run it lower output powers for uh on your chest and higher output powers if you want to start pushing the numbers for another body part.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you know, and and speaking of other things, we got another one coming up called the focus protocol. Uh, you know, before we get to the focus protocol, I think a lot of people are getting bored at this point because there's been a lot of science and a lot of big words, I'm myself included. Uh so let's let's let's I don't know, let's just skip to another uh uh you know uh another athlete here talking about uh direct current and his recovery. How about we do that?
SPEAKER_00Sounds good to me.
SPEAKER_03All right, here's Matt Boyd. He played for the he plays for the Chicago Cubs now, uses our device. He had Tommy Johns a couple years ago. He played for the Cleveland um help me there, but Guardian State still hard to say the Guardians, but uh here it is right here. He talks about it.
SPEAKER_01That isn't just the reaction.
SPEAKER_02Matthew Boyd is on the mound for the Cleveland Guardian, and quite a year for him. Tommy John surgery last year, just eight starts. Now he's about ready to make his third start in the postseason. It's also an entire game. And he gets a standing O heading back to the dugout.
SPEAKER_01That that's helping me in this stage of the season right now is where it's really, really useful. That being said, like it doesn't mean I can't use it another way.
SPEAKER_03I love how you said that. It doesn't mean I can't use it any other way. This is this is the stage I'm in, but that's the that's a kind of a great point, isn't it, Mason? That a lot of people will pull this device in because they hurt their elbow or they hurt their shoulder. And it's like, this technology isn't over yet. There's like more to it. Can you explain what he meant by that?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I think you hit the nail on the head with the fact that most people that we chat with, when they start seeking this technology out, they're sitting there in that moment with an injury, with something that's it's ailing them. Um, and that's kind of how we start our initial connections. But you and I both know that that's not usually where that connection ends, is when that injury is healed and when it's over. Um, we're usually talking to them much beyond that initial injury, you know, getting back to where it needs to be, because there's so many other uses for this. You know, this this protocol here that we're about to talk about, this isn't focused on a shoulder injury. This isn't focused on an ACL or knee injury or anything like that. It's just focused on the mind and the body overall. Um, and that that speaks to just one use that you have post acute injury where you can use this technology.
SPEAKER_03Yep. And you know, you this focus protocol specifically uh again, single channel. This was uh something we've been probably doing for six years or so. A lot of good response with this one. We've learned some new things since then, but I still want to share it because I don't want it to die. I've had a lot of good results with this, and you know, kind of off camera, you mentioned you use this a lot. So, what's your experience with doing this and what's your recommendation of how you had success with this particular setup?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. I I like using this one, and again, I'll probably viewers will probably start to learn of a broken record that I can sound like at times with certain protocols that I use. But this one, I usually use this one two to three times a week. Um, just on days that I know I'm gonna be a little bit busier. I'll start off my day with this one in the morning, um, post-workout, and just use this one to kind of help calm down and come back to center. I like this one um just as much as the full body reset or warm-up because this one is a little bit different in the sense where your active pad is going to be the more superior pad or the higher up pad. Um, and so that's kind of why I like using this one um to kind of just come back to center because you've got that black pad on the back of the neck, it's more mind focused, and you're sending it down to the passive pad, which it's still a core connection located on your low back.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and and just for people listening who aren't really familiar with this device, when Mason's saying Active and passive pads. This is on direct current. So it's not bouncing back and forth traditionally like a tens unit. This is going directionally, like the way very similar to the way your brain contracts a muscle spindle. So the heavier current is going to be on that starting point or the minus portion or the black lead running to the red. So that black or heavier is the active pad, which is what he was referring to. Now, this is the this was the second focus protocol, believe it or not. There was one before this. You and I talked about it. We debated whether or not to use it, but I've used it before. I've I've I know a lot of athletes that actually do use it that are crazy enough. I'm gonna put it up there and I'm just gonna keep silent and I'll let you talk through it.
SPEAKER_00Little bit of a pad switch, but um we've got that black pad, that active pad is going to be um there on the forehead, and so then your passive pad still in the same area on the low back. Why I do like this one as opposed to the initial one is because of the fact that you don't have to worry about the cervical area, the traps can tighten up sometimes when you start to push those numbers. Uh, but this one can definitely be one that uh you get a little bit of an apprehensive response from anybody that you're gonna use it on, even yourself, you might be a little apprehensive to use this one. Um, no need to be apprehensive, though. There's a lot of great results with this. You also don't have to worry about the negative impact with you know some muscle tightness in the neck that could happen.
SPEAKER_03It it's uh it's the forehead that freaks people out. That's my guess. Uh, it's perfectly safe to go on the forehead. I have done it. I I would recommend, you know, and I like this one actually. This is a good focus protocol because it is brain to muscle, literally. And uh, I've done it not just on low back, I went brain to bicep, brain to chest, brain, I tried everything with this one. I think I don't know if there was a place for it, but I did enjoy it. Maybe there's something to be said about me by wanting to put it on my forehead. If you do this protocol, just go light sensation. That's my uh recommendation. You can even run this on blood flow, especially using the DX 500 that has a heavier blood flow. I think this will probably uh be very beneficial. Of hockey players made this popular. So if that go figure tells you anything, that doesn't surprise me one bit. It doesn't surprise me one bit. But what I will say, you know, in in response to and in defense of hockey players, one of the smartest doctors, and perhaps, in my opinion, the godfather of doctors of DC was a former hockey player. Uh, he's in Chicago. Um, I won't embarrass him, but uh I don't know if he does this protocol, but he was a hockey player as well. Mason, I'm sad. Why? Well, because you know, that was the last one, and we're already 20 some odd minutes in on the live tech talk. It's already almost over, and uh uh that makes me sad. But that also means hey, we are live if you have questions. That brings me to another segment we like to call the current check. Here we are, current check.
SPEAKER_04Coverage check, let's go!
SPEAKER_05Questions live, now we bring the flow. We bring the flow, we bring the check, tech talks live, it's the coverage check.
SPEAKER_03Good song, Mason. Wow, that should be our walk-up song, Tech Talks Current Check. So if you have questions, now's the time to ask them. If you are live with us right now, if you're not live, leave them in the comment section. We will probably handle your questions in a future tech talk. So don't be bashful. Ask your questions, and we have them coming in. Here's one right now. Mason, you're gonna be put on the hot seat. Um this one's through YouTube, so I can show it. Uh, here we go. What is the average length of time for any of these sessions?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. And this one thing that I'll say about these devices is there's no right or wrong way to do it. There's ways that we've found that are best or better. Um, but generally what we recommend for these sessions is 20 minutes. Uh, 20 minutes, it's enough time where you're gonna see the effects um and see some lasting effects throughout the day with it. But it's not so much that you're gonna get, you know, DOMS or um, you know, any sort of soreness as a negative response.
SPEAKER_03Uh, Mike, thank you for your question. We have time for maybe one or two more because we got to move on, Mason. We got a lot more to cover, but here's another one. I like this one from runner, uh, runner like a mom. Um, this must have been on Instagram or or you or Facebook. Uh, does the focus protocol help with anxiety? Good question.
SPEAKER_00I I think it absolutely can help with anxiety. That's where I think those lower output powers um come into play. Everybody thinks that it's all about just cranking the numbers, got to get to 100, gotta max the devices out. Um, and there is so much merit in using those lower output powers. And I think that's the focus protocol and using it to uh help treat anxiety, to help calm things down. There's absolutely something to be said about using it for that. And then there's also the anxiety protocol that we went through. So even a combination of those two can work wonders for helping calm things down, helping calm the mind down too, um, and get ready to keep on, keep on.
SPEAKER_03Can't stump, Mason. You gotta wake up pretty early. That question wasn't tough enough, but it was a good question. Uh, I appreciate everyone coming in. Let me let me let me sift through this, Mason. I know this guy, he Mr. Baseball. I gotta, I gotta bring him in here. Bob Britz. Uh had a question about treating a forearm strain, forearm and elbow. Just you know, Mason, kind of run through briefly how how successful is that? What's a very quick pad placement that Bob can do, maybe some movements to help his elbow?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, elbow forward. There's there's been a lot of success with it. Um, one of the main things too is with doing these recovery protocols, we're increasing blood flow and we're increasing blood flow to the area in which you're placing the pads. So, to talk about kind of a pad placement for a forearm strain, one that I would recommend is to go black pad or your active pad on the back of the shoulder, shoulder blade area, Terry's minor, and then running that red pad on the medial portion um of the arm. Don't go directly over the forearm. Let's send the current down into the medial portion. That forearm is still going to get uh get that current as it passes through those neural pathways. Uh, but Bob, that's what I would recommend to start with. And then of course, we've got a lot of other options um as you start to work through those protocols.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, 100%. And uh, you know, never fail to even go use that as a footpath option. You know, you can run your feet in water. We got the shoulder protocol. Uh, you know, we kind of talked about that on that on the last tech talks, and we'll address that in a second. But here's one more question. One more, Mason. You got time for one more? Yeah, absolutely. This is a tough one. All right. Here we go. All right. Bill White asks, best pad placement for T10, T11 nerve pain. So something on the spine, what would you suggest? Just top of the head, what where have you seen some of the best results when it comes to that?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, uh, T10, T11, nerve pain, it all kind of depends. You know, are we working with it peripherally? Are we working with it more kind of in the area of the vertebrae? Um, but what I would recommend for something like that is I would go with your two black pads, um, you know, both of them, let's run a two-channel setup. Each black pad is gonna be on the back of the shoulder blade. And then I like to run the red pads on the glute mead. Um, because what we're gonna do is we're gonna involve the T10, T11 area right there on the vertebral column, but we're also going to start to involve some of the areas that T10 and T11 innervate or activate. Um, so it's kind of a two birds, one stone when you use that setup there.
SPEAKER_03Well, I need to blow up uh sound effect. That was that is absolutely beautiful. That that concludes our uh our current check for today. We're closing it.
SPEAKER_05Let's go! Questions live. Now we're in the flow. We bring the box, we bring the tech, tech box live. It's the coverage check.
SPEAKER_03It doesn't mean you're over with questions. You can always still ask us in the comment section. We will bring those back. We'll spend some more time in QA's in the pet, you know, in the future, but uh we got to move on to the next one, which gives me an opportunity to do a little shout out of last week. So if you didn't check out tech talks last week, here we go. It's still there. Uh our live last week was basically footbath. We didn't just talk about treating feet, Mason. Can you give a kind of brief synopsis of what people can expect if they click on this video and see why we put electricity into water?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I it's foot bath is the easiest thing to call it because that's one of the things that you're putting into the water or the thing that you're putting into the water. So it's easy to think that it's just for the feet and the lower legs. Um, but yeah, in last week's episode, we talk about all the different ways that you can apply the foot bath, why it's useful, how to do it, um, and overall why it's even safe to combine those two things.
SPEAKER_03It sounds weird, but you'll have to check it out. If you're not familiar with direct current, yeah, it's definitely a must watch. Uh, but yeah, that was uh that was the foot bath one. Uh we do, you know, we we have other podcasts out there, and then we have opened up a new segment called Spotlight, and we're gonna put a little spotlight on our CEO. Here we go. It's rewired.
SPEAKER_05I'm a cavalry.
SPEAKER_03Some men are built in gyms, others built in chaos, forged, crashes, pain, pressure, the kind of setbacks that would bury most people, but not him. He wasn't built for comfort, he was built in Oklahoma dirt, a warrior shaped by grit, a champion defined by resilience, one of the toughest riders ever to line up behind a gate, calm under pressure, aggressive when it mattered, the kind of rider that earned respect long before the trophies ever showed up. Please give a warm welcome to former AMA 250 national champion, Tree Kenong. We recently had this one released, so make sure you check this one out. Uh, hosted by the Dell, Matt Dell, our CEO, and it's uh I think it's a must-watch. This was an interesting man, uh, very, very obviously daredevilish, um, a lot of injuries. Didn't take himself too seriously. He was fun to watch. He's very entertaining. So uh make sure you check that one out. Have you seen this one, Mason?
SPEAKER_00Yes, yes, I have. It was great. Trey's Trey's a huge name in motocross and and dirt biking. So it was really cool to not only get him connected with our technology, but get him on to just kind of talk about his experience with it too.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, 100%. So that is Rewired, the Rewired Podcast. You'll find that on our nervotics channel. And that one is up, so make sure you click on that. There, I'll I'll leave a link below in the description on the YouTube channel. Uh, and click on it. Uh, give him some love. He's uh he's a good dude and he uses our technology, gets him out of a lot of injuries. He's a big fan. And uh yeah, uh we I love that one. Coming to a conclusion, Mason, but we do have something of positive to look at, right? We have next week. We have next Thursday. Why don't we go ahead and talk about that next Thursday, uh 12 p.m. Eastern time? What do we have for next week, Mason?
SPEAKER_00Next week, if I'm not mistaken, we're gonna be talking a little bit about arm care. Um, but we're not going to talk about arm care in the sense of only for baseball players because we kind of alluded to it a little bit earlier when we were showing that new X video um in today's episode. Everybody always thinks arm care, overhead athletes, it's always baseball. It is not just baseball. We have got so many other sports and just so many other daily activities that are going to require shoulders, overhead movements. Um, so we're gonna touch on all of those next week. If any of that relates to you, definitely worth tuning in.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, the beauty of the athletes, you know, they're they're at such an elite level that you get you have to understand that for them to have the confidence in using a technology at their level has to say something. It's volumes, and it's not just our technology, it's direct current technology, which is multiple companies. I I know I I do that a lot, but just to kind of reference you know why it works and and getting involved in what DC can do, not just for athletes. They did a great job in keeping it a secret while they tested it for us, and now we're getting it out there everywhere. This is gonna be a good one, Mason. I'm excited about the arm care one because I think a lot of people have shoulder issues. I asked uh actually in in the last rewired years ago, we had Dr. Sam Bataglia on, and they asked him, you know, if he had to pick anything, what would he pick uh using this direct current technology device? And he's seen a lot of success. He didn't say footbath, he didn't say low back, he didn't say knee, believe it or not. He said shoulder was his best results. And this is a doctor that treats between 150 and 220 patients a week doing this therapy. That's a that's a constant, uh just revolving door of working with people. So pretty good response on arm care, wouldn't you say?
SPEAKER_00Absolutely, I would. Yeah. And I love the fact that you brought up too um about how, you know, it's it's to work in conjunction with what they're doing. Um, you know, there's a lot of superstition in recovery. There's a lot of superstition just in athletics as a whole. And that's probably one of the first questions that we get is well, how is this going to combine with what I'm already doing? Because they don't want to change what they're already doing. Um, and that's where we're we're so lucky to be able to talk about how this combines with almost everything that they're doing. Just add this as the cherry on top.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. You know, it's uh I lost my train of thought. You know why? Because I'm sad again.
SPEAKER_00You just keep getting stuck on the fact that it's gonna close out. It's coming. We gotta wait until next week to talk about it. You're gonna have us, you're we're gonna change, and we're just gonna do a daily show.
SPEAKER_03We we we could do daily. I I would need, I would need like we would we would need an entire team of doing some of the back end stuff. But I know uh that being said, you know, for next week, you know, make sure you come come on our platform, like, subscribe, hit the bell. It's at nervotics.com. And that follow, you know, you could follow us on any of those. Uh, you can certainly see that YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, X. We're on all of that. So follow it. You will see the link for arm care up there today. So you make sure you just enable the notifications so when we go live, you'll you'll get access to it. Um, and you can always check us out at nervotics.com on our website. There's one more. There, there's one more segment I'd like to share. I like to call these magic moments. All right, but let's tee this up because there's a lot of things, and I'm gonna surprise you a little bit. Now, before we kind of get into this, Mason, we should probably tell the audience, I'm gonna share some videos where we were in uh Tampa St. Pete area. We were doing a triathlon. This was kind of like towards the end, and we were having a little bit of fun. I've been in a lot of kayak trips, I've been way out there on the ocean, and I have gotten some close encounters of dolphins. Mason shows up one day to Florida and he gets the closest encounter to a dolphin I've ever seen in the wild. Um, and he got video of it. So, Mason, why don't you talk through this?
SPEAKER_00I I'm the dolphin whisperer, for lack of a better way to put it. Yeah, yeah, no, came right up to us. We had uh, you'll see towards the end of the video this this lady here. Uh, she was walking up and down the shoreline there, just chasing it along, almost ran into her line. Um, yeah. So we're we're not we're not worried. We were just a little bit concerned at the time that the line was sitting right there. Um, but I mean, to be completely honest though, Jake, I know I wouldn't have said this because it would just be ridiculously corny. So it must have been you that had said this, but right after this moment, didn't you say that it really kind of gave the trip porpoise for you um overall? So, right? Because that wouldn't have been me. There's no way I would have said that.
SPEAKER_03Of course, of course, you wouldn't have said that. I'm glad you brought that up because we got some more things. We're not just gonna stop with the dolphin. There, there is one thing. This lady, she was hilarious. Uh she was yelling at all the birds, eating the fish because she was trying to fish it. And it's a lo and behold, here comes this dolphin and takes everything. So, all right, here's more. We're gonna be nice, we're gonna be nice to beginning. This is a good picture of some of our team. I will say, you know, we have more behind the scenes. You know, by the way, you know, Mason, myself, the Dell, you know, we hog the spotlight, but there's a lot of people on the back end that do a lot of major things so that this can happen. Um, from the right to the left, we have Sarah W. We have Sarah H. We have the Dell right in the middle. I'm next to Matt. And then, of course, you have Mason, and this is also also in St. Pete. Good time.
SPEAKER_00Look at that backdrop, man. Look at that. That's a postcard.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so we're moving on. All right, here's another good one. So this was a little bit before the trip. We we had we did so many footpaths that people came back multiple times, and they basically bragged about their medal and they gave a lot of credit to us. This wasn't our only picture. We had several. If you watched this on Instagram, some of them basically tagged us. So here's an answer.
SPEAKER_00This was super cool. I remember this one vividly. This was our buddy from Sao Paulo came running back in. Um, and it was right after his win. He he kicked his shoes off right away and got into a footbath. But the first thing they wanted to tell us was about his medal and how he just felt so much better overall throughout the week. Those are long weeks for those athletes.
SPEAKER_03Long weeks for athletes. It was long weeks for us. All right, let's get let's keep diving in, Mason. We're getting some more gritty stuff here. Next. Okay, all right. I don't know. I'm praying for some reason, probably hoping I can get it through get through the day. We were so busy. There's Mason, you know, kind of taking over, giving instruction. What's going through your brain in that, Mason?
SPEAKER_00I don't I'm gonna have to think back to the trip. I've got a little bit of a furrowed brow, so my only thought is that he mentioned something about how he uses a tens unit at home. That's gotta be what he had said, and that's what I'm reacting to. But I remember him, I remember him very vividly too. Him and his wife stopped by multiple times throughout the week. And so this had to have been day one because I think by day four or five, this guy was all about direct current.
SPEAKER_03100, yeah, there was a lot of that. There was a lot of that. They're like, Oh, what is this? And then they came back and they were our regulars. More to come. Okay, you gotta tell me the backstory of this. So, those of you who are just listening and and the you can't see it. We have a DX500 next to a knee brace on the table. Please give the story of this, Mason. Why did we do this?
SPEAKER_00Why we did this, that knee brace got left behind. Why I think that knee brace got left behind is because there was no need for it after her footbath. Um, so I remember the next morning she came back and there was some kind of recollection of I forgot my knee brace. Um, but she hopped up and she was on her way for the rest of the evening. No knee brace needed. Um, so it got left behind. Thank goodness it was still there in the morning for her. Um, because those things are a pretty penny, but uh, we've got that device too that can help with those uh knee brace issues.
SPEAKER_03It was a pretty cool marketing uh option. So we figured we we'd take advantage of that. Speaking of marketing and and and seeing extreme pictures and taking advantage, here we go on the next one. What in the world are you doing there, Mason? I'm just gonna move through this one. Let's talk about this.
SPEAKER_00There we go.
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SPEAKER_00I knew this one was coming. The music had to lead me up to this one. So, for any of our viewers at home that haven't caught on yet, I am a northerner boy. I am from Michigan, born and raised up here. Honestly, before about six months ago, didn't do a ton of travel, and then Nervotics has got me moving around like a UPS box all across the country. So land myself in Florida with my good friend Jake here, and he's kind of giving me the lay of the land, telling me how things go. We have Michigan sunsets that nothing can compare to, but he wanted me to admire this Florida sunset that we had. And what I had heard and the message that was conveyed to me is that as Floridians, uh, you wave to the sunset. And so then next thing I know, I step up to the plate as I would, um, and as I do, stepped up to the plate and started waving to the sunset only to turn around and have the rest of the team have their cameras on me because most of our team is in Florida and they know that that's a bunch of balarkey that Jake had sold me there.
SPEAKER_03It was uh I felt bad. I really did. It was it was hilarious. Um, he fell for it, hook line and sinker. That is a great wave, by the way. So if there if this was a thing, I would say that this would be perfect form. Um, I felt so bad that I I uh I did it with him.
SPEAKER_00So and that's my contact photo for us now.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's a little thing we like to call magic moments, and we had a few of those in our last couple of trips. But uh boy, fun stuff. Mason, any final thoughts?
SPEAKER_00I just I think this episode was so needed. I was so excited to do this episode um because there's just kind of this hidden hidden feature of these devices and of direct current that is recovery. Um, you know, and it's just general recovery, it doesn't have to be acute injuries. Uh and what I will say too is if you haven't taken a good look at that thumbnail for today's episode, take a look at that because it really kind of spurs. Sells out the picture of what Jake and I are trying to get across. And it's that there's so many different pieces that go into recovery. But if you don't have that one piece that you're missing, then you've just got a bunch of pieces laying around. It's not a full puzzle, it's not a full picture. Um, so it's about finding if there are any missing pieces and uh filling those gaps.
SPEAKER_03Perfectly said. And I guess that leaves me to close it out for one final thought on recovery. But I appreciate being with you once again, Mason. And you are you're correct. You know, recut your recovery is not just about you know getting out of pain, obviously. There's there's certainly more to it. It's getting pain to calm down, but not just it's not just for stretching further, sleeping more, sitting in cold plunge, or using every gadget that makes you look like you're training for some sort of space mission. All of that can help. Feeling better and being ready are not always the same thing. Real recovery has to restore connection, the body, the brain, the muscles, the movement, all of these pieces not only work together, but with performance, it does not fully come back. You may, you may look ready, you may feel better, you may even check all the boxes, but deep down, something is still feeling off. That's the gap we've been talking about. Because when the right pieces connect, the whole picture, it changes. And when the missing piece finally locks in, recovery stops feeling blurry, and the body gets clearer, the movements get sharper, the nervous system comes back online, and what once felt incomplete starts to become a masterpiece in motion. That's the missing piece in recovery we were trying to talk about. Get current, stay wired, and keep chasing the outcomes. We'll see you on the next Tech Talks. Thanks you, thank you for joining in. At Nervotics, our mission is simple: to provide the tools that help people move better, heal faster, and perform at their best through advanced direct current technology. From professional athletes to clinical providers, Nervotics delivers systems that target the source of pain, not just the symptoms. Inside our training portal, you'll find setup guides, pad placements, and performance protocols trusted by top clinicians and coaches. Because when it comes to DC education, we set the standard. And when you need help, our customer support and training team is always just to click away at nervotics.com. And make sure you check out our new DX500 with the same power, precision, and performance of our full size systems in a device that fits in the palm of your hand.